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This time we are with the British Punks Dogsflesh!
Some bands who exploded the UK 82 Punk movement, they brought more aggressive mood to Punk with adding crunchy chords, intense drumming, dark and violent attitude and lyrics, so they built a bridge between the Punk and Metal.
Who were these most important hard guys? Discharge, GBH, English Dogs, The Exploited, Onslaught (later Thrash Metal), Chaos UK, Broken Bones and Dogsflesh... Dogsflesh has kept quiet for long years, but when the date was 2005, they returned again!
After many years, they returned to scene, and they relesed latest studio album called "Vision of Hell" last year and by Morbidzine we made an interview with Rob who is the guitarist of band! Now we don't go into more details, here is the interview...
MORBIDZINE: Hails to British Punk Thrashers from Turkey! Before questions, Rob thank you so much to spent your time for us. The band released the latest album called "Vision of Hell" last year, and pure, fast Punk Metal is again, how do you characterize new Dogsflesh album? Do you believe all stuff was reflected with this album what you wanted?
ROB: No problem and greetings to all the Punx & Skinheads in Turkey.
We don’t really want to categorise ourselves under any specific banner, we just wanted to release an excellent album, which we believe we have achieved in Vision Of Hell, in its sounds and production. We are really pleased with the finished album and have got really positive feedback from people who have bought the album which is always a good sign.
MORBIDZINE: Dogsflesh returned after 20 years in 2005. What have band members been busy with in this long duration? Have you stayed in music scene?
ROB: The original members were all doing different things really, none of which have been associated with music, myself and Tim did a lot of motocross, Jon our singer spent time fishing and our original drummer John spent time playing football, we have also spent time getting married, drunk, divorced, raising kids and raising hell and constantly fighting the system.
MORBIDZINE: Can we say your returning EP called "The Threat Remains" was the accumulated fury of long years?
ROB: Yeah, we felt that we needed to write some new material which we could play live and release, as a lot of the older material was a little bit dated, so that is how The Threat Remains came about and its fair to say that it was an accumulation of frustration and fury of what was going on in the UK over a period of time.
MORBIDZINE: Could you tell us first show after reunion? How about the impressions of fans?
ROB: We were very surprised at the reception we got from the fans after a 20 year lay off. We only expected a small number to turn up for the show as it was in our hometown, and a lot of the old punx and skinheads who used to follow the band had moved on from that style of music and moved away from the area but there was in excess of 150 people in the venue which was really nice, especially reminiscing with them about the old shows.
MORBIDZINE: Which important things did you believe to get with last world tour? In example, how about the reactions of Asian audience?
ROB: We didn’t do a world tour, we just did Europe and USA and we went down really well in both places especially in America where we have just signed to Unrepentant Records who are releasing and distributing the Vision Of Hell album over there for us. As for Asia, we have had a lot of interest in the band from Malaysia, Indonesia, China and Japan as there is a very up and coming market for Punk Rock, but due to the costs involved, not many bands get the opportunity to play there, although if the opportunity arose for us to play, we would take it. We have also contributed a track to go on a compilation album to be released in China.
MORBIDZINE: We heard there was a racism slander about the band with the "The Threat Remains", however we read your explanations on myspace. This is very ugly slander, what can be the main mission of this person who calumniate to band?
ROB: Yeah unfortunately with the type of music that we play, we are always going to get certain mindless people who are going to listen to the lyrics or titles of songs and label a band racist, which is what happened to us. I don’t know what they get out of causing trouble like that, but in my opinion there is no place for people like that in Punk Rock and for the record we are not Racist in any shape form or fashion and we don’t condone it either, we are a punk rock band who sing about whatever is happening in the world at this moment in time and we wont be told what we can and can’t sing about by some mindless individuals.
MORBIDZINE: If you compared pre-85 with the duration among 2005-2008, what are the changes or developments for band's musical ideas and attitude?
ROB: A lot of the songs we wrote about pre 85 were about unemployment and Maggie Thatcher, but I think we are a lot more diverse now in the subjects that we write about, which include Terrorism, Prison, The Labour Government, Child Support Agency, Kids Killing kids, Guns, Knife, Drug and Gang cultures in the UK, then there is also the war in Iraq, and any other topic which may make news. I also think that as a band we have not deviated from our UK82 roots, we keep things fast and simple, which I think the newer fans like.
MORBIDZINE: - You are one of the fellow bands which defined the UK82 sound with the bands like GBH, The Exploited, Broken Bones, Discharge, English Dogs etc... As differently from these bands, why did you want to suspend for a long years?
ROB: It wasn’t that we wanted to suspend things for that long, its just that the punk scene in England died around 1986, with most of the bands splitting up, with the exception of The Exploited and GBH, and the audiences moved on to other kinds of music and that’s basically what happened to us, so we decided to call it a day.
MORBIDZINE: Have you ever been inspiration or requests from these bands to return and play again?
ROB: Very much so, we went to watch GBH and Broken Bones at a punk all dayer in Leeds back in 2004 and some of the bands that were playing that day were awful and we all agreed that we were better than them back in our day, so that was the inspiration for us to get back together again and reform.
MORBIDZINE: I want to thrust in a question about English Dogs. Now, they are completely a metal band, as you know they play Power Metal. What's your ideas about their new sound?
ROB: I think that statement was true from about 1985 onwards, but since then we have become good friends with The English Dogs and apart from Pinch the drummer, the old band has re-formed with Wakey back on vocals and they have returned to the old UK82 punk sound, and when playing live they only play tracks from their first 2 albums, they don’t do any of the metal tracks at all.
As far as my opinion on the band when they went metal, I personally loved the music and I think that their To The Ends Of The Earth EP is one of the best bits of music they have written.
MORBIDZINE: Now, about the early days. Does band have any unreleased demo recordings before 1985's "Bloody Road To Death"? What's the first main influences of band as musical and lyrical?
ROB: Yeah we contributed 2 tracks to a compilation album called ‘The New Bowery’ which was released on Teesbeat Records in 1983 and we also recorded an unreleased 3 track demo called ‘Never Give In’ back in 1982. As far as our influences went back then, music wise they were The Exploited, GBH & Discharge, then later on we were also influenced by The English Dogs. Lyrically we were like most of the other bands at the time mainly writing songs about unemployment, Margaret Thatcher, Drugs and the Police.
MORBIDZINE: I think "Mad Punx & Psycho Skins" is a symbolic song for band's attitude. What did band want to tell us as main theme? Is this a definition of friendship among the Punks and Skinheads?
ROB: I wrote that song back in 1983 because it summed up what was happening to us as a band, we had an equal split of followers, punks and skinheads which was unusual at the time as most bands had either the punks following them like GBH, Discharge & Vice Squad Etc, then you had the Skinheads who followed bands like The Business, The Cockney Rejects, Blitz etc, so it was unusual for a band like us to have both bands of followers.
MORBIDZINE: Some British Punk bands like you and above-mentioned, have approached more Metal sound with the Punkish attitude year after year and. In your opinion which reasons have influenced all these bands?
ROB: In my opinion, it was just a natural progression, for a lot of the bands as they became better musicians and wanted to try different sounds and introduce more guitar solo’s and more metal riffs, it is just a role reversal really as you look at the likes of Metallica, Slayer and Anthrax etc, they all said that bands like Discharge and GBH were the influence on them.
MORBIDZINE: What do you think about the today of UK82 Punk movement? However what's your ideas about U.S. Punk/Hardcore, Crossover Metal bands like Black Flag, Misfits, Dead Kennedys, D.R.I., Suicidal Tendencies, Agnostic Front etc... Which of them do you usually follow or listen?
ROB: There is still a market place for UK82 music throughout the world, although the scene in the UK is slowly dying, which is why we try to play as many shows in Europe as we can where there is still a healthy scene. As for US punk bands like you mentioned above, I don’t really listen to any of them and certainly don’t follow any of them.
MORBIDZINE: There are some new bands which joined to Old School Punk/Hardcore, Crossover scene at last years. Is there a second burst blowup on Punk Scene? Or do you think there will be more developments for Punk scene in future?
ROB: I think that as long as people want to hear punk music, there will always be a demand for it, and there will always be new bands who will spring up, although I feel it has once again become an underground scene.
MORBIDZINE: We see today's popular Punk bands and bands which are mentioned as Punk like Emo, Emocore etc... Are these rubbish bands and their supporters is the pointer of a degeneration in music?
ROB: I get very frustrated when bands like Blink 182, Good Charlotte, Sum 41 and even Green Day get labelled as Punk Rock. The problem with the label, Punk Rock is that there are so many genres of the music now, like DBeat, Hardcore, UK82, 77 Punk, Oi, Thrash, Crustpunk and Grindcore etc that the media just tags anything with heavy guitars as Punk Rock. In my opinion there is a place for Emo style music and their followers and I would be wrong to say that they are rubbish, as im sure that some of those bands are very good musicians however its not a music that I ever listen to or have any interest in.
MORBIDZINE: Are you interested in with the Thrash Metal or more Extreme musical genres? What's your ideas about UK Bands like Napalm Death, Extreme Noise Terror, Electro Hippies, Carcass which built a bridge between Crustpunk and Grindcore?
ROB: I like some of the Thrash Metal bands like Onslaught and Wolfbrigade, although I do prefer metal bands like like Metallica, Motorhead, Iron Maiden, Motley Crue and Guns N Roses, music that you can hear what people are playing as opposed to just making a loud noise, I have never really listened to any of the above, I know I am stuck in my ways but I do genuinely prefer good old UK82 Punk and Oi Music.
MORBIDZINE: Is there a new album soon? If there are new materials, even you can't say a definite date, roughly; when will you release them? And could you tell us new album's sound and lyrical concept?
ROB: We're currently writing material for the new album, which hopefully will be released sometime next year, but the problem that we are having is that due to the excellent feedback from the Vision Of Hell album, the tracks will need to be really good, to make a better album than that, so we are being very selective as to the tracks that we will be putting on the album. We probably have about 3 tracks that are about ready, but are still working on the others. As for the sound and lyrical content, it will be just like Vision Of Hell, pure UK82 music, with lyrics about what is happening in the world today, that will never change for us as a band.
MORBIDZINE: Thanks for interview by Morbidzine and Turkish fans! Do you want to send last message to fans?
ROB: This has been a very difficult year for us as a band, having to face death’s, band members quitting and serious ill health, so I would like to thank all of the Punx & Skinheads in Turkey & throughout the world who have supported us, downloaded our music, bought our merchandise and come to our shows, without your support we would have called it a day a long time ago, but were still here and plan to be for the foreseeable future kicking out UK82 tunes. Thanx to you all and hopefully we’ll get the opportunity to play some shows in Turkey sometime in the future.
Rob
Dogsflesh
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